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Restoration glass, old wavy glass
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munorc
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:17 pm Posts: 58 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Restoration glass, old wavy glass
Does anyone know of sources (with prices) of restoration (wavy) glass? Or alternatively, prices for old glass.
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<br>I am just looking for an idea of cost. Where I work, they are in the process of renovating and old building from the 20's. They are gutting it and replacing all the windows. The catch is it has 3' x 6' double hung windows, all with old wavy glass. I asked them what they are doing with the old sashes and they said they were all going to a landfill. The sashes have lead paint and the glazing putty has asbestos so they are an abatement issue.
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:20 pm |
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Anonymous
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
In the area I am in the local glass shops sell the wavy glass.
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Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:22 pm |
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Anonymous
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
In my area (DC Metro), I know of only one salvage source for wavy glass. You have to buy the sash to get the glass, then remove and cut it yourself. The typical price that I've seen is around $25 to $35 for a single sash (roughly 2'x3'). This compares very favorably with the brand-spankin' new reproduction wavy glass from the company in Jersey. What I usually do is take the glass out of the sash, then take it to my neighborhood old-fashioned hardware store to be cut on their machine. I tried cutting it myself, but in the end, I would prefer to pay someone $0.50 per cut.
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<br>Cheers,
<br>Tim
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:08 pm |
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PaulR
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:01 pm Posts: 100 Location: Albany CA
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
I purchased antique glass from an historic glass and window preservationist. The glass was cut to my specifications and arrived cleaned and ready to install. I paid 11 cents per square inch, which I feel was money well spent.
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<br>The windows from that building should be salvaged. There are numerous salvage yards that would love to get their hands on those windows.
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<br>Paul
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:14 pm |
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munorc
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:17 pm Posts: 58 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
That would equate to about $150 per sash for the glass at 36" x 36".
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<br>When you paid 11 cents per sq inch was that the price after it was cut or the cost of the sheet it came from? There can be a lot of waste when cutting glass if you cannot utilize the other pieces.
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<br>I agree, the windows should be salvaged. The fact that the sashes containg lead and asbestos means they are no doubt destined to go to a hazardous waste landfill. The reason I posted the question is that I am interested in getting some of the sashes for the glass. I had never priced restoration glass so I wanted to know what the effort would be worth.
<br>The building has over 100 windows, 200 sashes. Many of them look to be even wider than 3 feet. It is amazing how big each window is considering they are not divided, and are glazed with a single piece of glass. It is even more amazing how many of them still have the original glass. Over time, some replacements ended up being divided, either vertically or horizontally but most are full size.
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<br>I watched as another building on campus from 1920 was torn down about 5 years ago. It had similar windows. They all suffered the fate of the wrecking ball. They will be replacing the windows on this building so they actually have to remove the sashes in the process. When that building was demolished, I managed to obtain an entry door from it, 10' high, 12' wide, double doors, side lights and transom windows. It is all crated up and tucked in the corner of our basement awaiting an addition we plan on building on to our house.
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:40 pm |
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PaulR
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:01 pm Posts: 100 Location: Albany CA
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
The price of the antique glass (11 cents per square inch) was the price after it was cut and cleaned. I don't have the exact numbers handy at the moment, but when I was pricing and ordering the glass I calculated that the wavy glass was approximately twice the price of contemporary window glass. Salvaged glass from local salvage yards here in the Bay Area is even more expensive and harder to come by, especially in large pieces.
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<br>I purchased the glass from a preservation company called Fairview Glass in Maryland. They were really slow and I had to follow up with them several times but they did eventually deliver and make good on the order. In the end I'm really happy with the way my windows look.
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<br>I hate to see old building and house parts go to the landfill... it just kills me. Besides the loss of historical building parts, given the value of salvaged double hung windows and wavy glass, the monetary loss is great as well.
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<br>Paul
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:23 pm |
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munorc
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:17 pm Posts: 58 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
Boy that seems a bit high. Window glass at our local hardware store is a little more than a penny per square inch.
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:48 pm |
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VeronaJeff
Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:45 pm Posts: 630 Location: Verona, NJ
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
Yes, regular glass can be replaced for near nothing, but restoration glass is worth the cost. While I am quite happy with standard glass in basement or closet windows, we have gone for the restoration glass everywhere else. We have a few windows that we have not tackled yet with a pane or two of newer glass. The new panes look like they are missing when the eye scans over the old to new.
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:30 am |
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munorc
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:17 pm Posts: 58 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
After many months of watching this building renovation progress, I got a call from the people in charge of the renovation. They saved me 5 of the sashes from the building. Three of them are 4'x5', two are 5'x5'. Now I have to figure out what to do with them.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:52 pm |
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ChynaElizabeth
Joined: Thu May 13, 2004 9:28 pm Posts: 959 Location: Laurel Montana
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
You are so lucky! We don't have such places around here or at least they don't advertise so such finds are pretty scarce. Unless you count the junkyard on Broadwater that is. I'm a good one for collecting things for some day so I can relate to having parts for things I don't yet have. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
<br>tanya
_________________ tanya Grounds keeper at Briar Rose Cottage.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:11 pm |
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SacramentoDiane
Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2003 4:48 am Posts: 438 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
Finding wavy glass that big is hard to find. I have some from old sashes but the max is about 36". I needed some larger pieces for a project and I could not find anything over 36"
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<br>Diane
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:09 am |
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Anonymous
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
I salvage bungalow house parts, too. Old windows are frequently tossed when home owners decide to "improve" by installing aluminum combination windows or bay windows. I never need to purchase glass to replace broken panes in my home-I just use my curb finds.
<br>My question: Does old wavy glass come in a variety of styles? In my bungalow the glass in the top panes is installed horizontal wavy, but vertical wavy in the bottom. In some of my salvaged windows the glass does not appear to be wavy so much as very irregular with bubbles. Would these be windows from different eras, or could this be attributed to the skill of the craftsman? It seems to me that all wavy glass was not created equal.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:52 am |
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munorc
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:17 pm Posts: 58 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
The sad part of the story is that the building had about 200 of this size. I am glad I could save a few of them. In looking at them from the outside, I really did not expect them to be that big. They are huge for a single piece of glass. I had fun trying to get them in to my truck. Now I have to figure out what I am going to do with them. They are almost to big to deal with.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:05 am |
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djmiller
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:52 pm Posts: 714 Location: Athens, AL
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Re: Restoration glass, old wavy glass
My garage is full of old wavy glass and sashes... the original windows were replaced our windows (about 48 of them) but only about 1/3 had the old glass. I trashed the new glass sashes... but some of our windows were 52" wide, and about 7' tall... We are going to use some of that in the kitchen cabinets. If we have any left over, y'all are free to take it!
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<br>Deb
_________________ MA, Historic Preservation, BS in Architecture
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